Autonation hyundai

Hello
I have a Hyundai Kona that I bought used with only 5000 miles in November of last year. The car has been perfectly fine since buying it and the dealership I bought it at wasn’t a Hyundai, but it was a good AutoNation dealership in my area that I have bought previous cars at.
Since November I’ve only put about 4000 miles on it and suddenly while I was driving, the engine light popped up and the car turned off. This happened a few more times in the span of 10 minutes, so I went to an auto parts shop nearby to get it scanned. The engine light ended up showing a “Camshaft Position Sensor” code, and the worker advised me to take it directly to Hyundai so I didn’t mess with my warranty, taking it to some other mechanic.
I leave the car at my only local Hyundai dealership, show them a picture of the code from the scanner, and ask them to see if they can fix it. They take the car in and one day later call me to say that there was no issue with the car. Supposedly, they ran every test and everything came back fine. The service advisor then goes to pick up the car and the engine light turns on again. So, he takes back the car and tells me he will call when they figure out what’s wrong.
Another two days pass and the service advisor calls me in the morning to tell me that my car is ready. When I go to pick up the car, he tells me that they just forgot to clear the code on the engine light. I then drive the car two minutes outside of the dealership and the car turns off on me with the engine light turning on and the battery light turning on at the same time. Luckily, the car started and I was able to drive it right back to the dealership. I told them that it’s pretty ridiculous that they’ve had the car for almost a week, and can’t figure out what’s wrong with it despite being given the code from the auto parts + having made me drive down twice just to leave without my car.
It’s now been a week and a half and they told me that they still don’t know what’s wrong with the car. Is there anything I can do in this situation? Or does anyone have any advice for dealing with a situation like this?

Hello guys,
I have a 2023 chevy silverado WT lease that I have equity in.
I want to down size and get a used car because I am not the type to take good care of my car. My last car was 2008 hyundai elantra and I regret selling it....
Autonation wants to buy out my lease.
What are the pros and cons of trading in and buying a used car from AN vs just selling the car to AN and buying from private party?
I believe I don't have to pay tax if I trade in right? Whereas I'll pay around 10% if I go private route. Am I understanding this correctly?

Hi all, Looking at the following for a 21 year old driver with a recent accident. Something under $15k that will last 5 years with routine maintenance and cheap to insure.
2016 Mazda 3 Touring: https://www.autonation.com/cars/3MZBM1W72GM271914
2017 Kia Forte: https://www.autonation.com/cars/3KPFK4A79HE059414
2015 Buick Verano: https://www.rivardbuickgmc.com/VehicleDetails/used-2015-Buick-Verano-4dr_Sdn_w%2F1SD-TAMPA-FL/5572086430?
2018 Hyundai Elantra: https://www.hertzcarsales.com/rent2buy/Hyundai/2018-Hyundai-Elantra-c7043e520a0e0a9a45d8ee006cd0b271.htm
TIA for your insight and expertise!

Hey Chicagoland Ioniq 5 folks, where are y’all getting your cars serviced?
About a month ago I noticed I was coming up on 5k and needed the preconditioning update, so I used the Bluelink app to find an Ioniq certified dealer.
McGrath City Hyundai is listed as being Ioniq certified and was slightly closer to my house than Autonation O’hare, so I made an appointment there.
The Bluelink app served up the dealer’s appointment portal in a webview, and it had my car listed along with options that correlated to the recommended service intervals, and I manually added the TSB for the preconditioning update in the notes.
It all seemed very aware of and appropriate to the vehicle, no mention of an oil change, so I didn’t think much of it at the time.
When I arrived this morning, the Service Advisor looked a bit perplexed and asked “is this all electric?” and then told me that they weren’t actually Ioniq Certified yet so they could do the tire rotation and other stuff, but not the software update.
Another service advisor took my key and hopped in to note mileage and take some pictures of the exterior. She remarked on how quiet it was when she turned it on, and that it was the first Ioniq 5 she’d seen.
So that’s cool.
Interestingly, they have two DCFC ChargePoints in their parking bay and a few Ioniq 5s listed for sale on their site—though I don’t see them here; the show floor appears to be undergoing rennovation as it is empty apart from one Genesis SUV and palettes of building materials.
Autonation O’Hare is an extra 20-30mins out of my way, and I’m still harboring a grudge against a very condescending salesperson I talked to there when I was first looking at buying an Ioniq, so I’d really prefer not to go that route.
Anyone have success with service in Chicagoland?

Here are all of the new US CCS (Level 3 fast-charging) stations that rolled out in January 2023, according to the Department of Energy. These chargers are suitable for most new EVs on the market, except for:

1. Tesla drivers who haven't bought the official CCS adapter yet. Certain older Teslas need additional work done to accept the adapter.
2. Leaf owners like me, and some owners of older cars that also use CHAdeMO. If you drive a Leaf, or an older CHAdeMO car, see my matching post in leaf.

There were 173 CCS charge points added in January 2023. That shows continued growth month after month. For comparison, there were only 106 new CCS charge points in January 2022.
If you'd like to know about new chargers along your routes right away, or just prefer not to check this list monthly when new openings are rare in your area, I've set up a free service that provides email notifications as soon as they open. You can sign up at evpov.com. Or not! I don't really have a business plan here, I built it to help EV owners like myself.
I also have some nice EVPOV bumper stickers. If you'd like one drop me a line.

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Every aspect of this story makes me hate car dealerships even more - https://www.npr.org/2023/02/04/1152932192/yo-yo-car-sales

If you've ever bought a car, you know the feeling when you've signed all the paperwork, driven off the lot, and think, "Wow, this is my car now."
"I was excited," says Courtney Johnson. "I felt like I'd made a good decision as a mother."
Johnson had just had a baby when she and her husband, Darren, decided to buy a newer, safer car for the family. They live in a rural area outside Orlando, Fla. He's a fire sprinkler inspector; she's stopped working to raise the kids. And they bought a little used Hyundai SUV.
"It had the backup camera," she says, "and passenger and kid's airbags in the back."
But a full three weeks after they bought the car and took it home, they got what's called "yo-yo'd."
"I received a phone call from the finance manager of the dealership," Darren Johnson says. The manager told them the financing for the car had fallen through and if the couple wanted to keep it, they had to come back and sign a contract with different terms. Sponsor Message
"I was kind of confused," Johnson says. "I thought this was a legally binding contract. ... We've had this vehicle at home. What do you mean it's not financed?"
Most of us would be confused too. But odds are good that in the paperwork you signed when you bought your own car, there was some legal language saying the sale may not really be final. It often asserts that if the car dealer has trouble with the financing on its end after the sale, it can later cancel the deal, try to get you to agree to different terms, and take the car back if you refuse. "It does happen all too frequently"
NPR has found that this happens regularly around the country — sometimes with painful consequences, such as losing your car or even getting arrested — and that tougher rules for car dealers can make a difference. All this is especially relevant right now, as the Federal Trade Commission is in the midst of drafting new rules for dealers.
In the Johnsons' case, the new deal raised the price of the car, paid less for their trade-in vehicle, and removed an insurance policy they had in the first deal.
The Johnsons signed the new deal because they wanted to keep the car. But then a week later, they say the dealership told them they had to sign yet another deal. Sponsor Message
"At that point, it just all seemed really fishy," says Darren. The couple refused to return and sign it.
The dealer, Greenway Hyundai Orlando, sent a tow truck and repossessed the car. Buying A Car With Confidence Life Kit Buying A Car With Confidence
Meanwhile, documents show that Greenway had already sold their trade-in vehicle and didn't give it back.
"We both were just kind of like mind blown at the whole entire situation," Courtney says. "Like, how is this even possible?"
Documents from a later arbitration case show that the dealership wouldn't return their calls. And it didn't pay off the loan on their trade-in vehicle. So the Johnsons were stuck paying the loan, with no car, for nearly a year. They eventually used a chunk of their small retirement savings to pay the loan back.
"I just remember being like ... embarrassed, confused," Courtney says. Without a car, she had to ask friends to drive her and the baby to doctor visits. "I was, like, counting out change, trying to give friends money for gas to get places."
Greenway Hyundai Orlando declined an interview but said in a statement that "Greenway's goal is always to match customers with the financing they need to purchase the automobile of their choice ... it is a lose-lose scenario to have any customer's financing fall through."
The company also said "the communication in this situation around the trade-in ... was hindered by the impacts of the Covid-19 pandemic." The dealership did not explain how the pandemic stopped it from returning the Johnsons' car, which the dealership sold in October of 2019.
The Johnsons bought a car from Greenway Hyundai Orlando in Orlando, Fla. The dealership told them they needed to sign two other deals after their initial purchase. After the Johnsons refused to sign the third contract, the dealership repossessed the car. Octavio Jones for NPR
To get a sense of how often yo-yo sales happen, NPR sent a survey to consumer attorneys who work on auto cases. Forty of them responded. Together, those few dozen lawyers said they've gotten calls from nearly 900 car buyers in just the past year who say they felt victimized by a yo-yo car sale. Sponsor Message
They said that often the terms are worse for the customer under the new deal. And they said that about half the time the dealer tells the customer it's too late to get their trade-in vehicle back.
So what happened to the Johnsons is not just a bizarre one-off situation.
"It does happen all too frequently," says John Van Alst, an attorney with the nonprofit National Consumer Law Center.
Usually, when you finance a car through the dealer, technically you owe the dealership the money for the car. But the dealer wants to quickly sell the credit contract you signed to, for example, the credit arm of Ford or Toyota or some other auto lender.
That's why car dealers often put in the fine print that if they have trouble doing that, they can cancel the sale.
"They want you to feel bound by the contract," says Van Alst. "But they want to be able to walk away."
Many car dealers want you to buy a car the day you walk into the dealership, he says, because if you leave, you'll keep shopping around.
And to get you to buy the car, the sales person might agree to a monthly payment that's too low. Or for whatever reason, they can't find an auto lender willing to essentially buy your car loan, at least at a price the dealer is willing to take.
The Federal Trade Commission is in the midst of drafting new rules for car dealers. Octavio Jones for NPR
Sometimes the car dealer made a mistake and thought they'd be able to find a lender.
But other times, Van Alst says, "it's used as a technique by dealers to try to force consumers into a worse deal."
In those instances, he says, the salesperson knows the deal is too good to be true, but lets you think you've bought the car anyway. So you take it home, show it to your friends and family. Then a few days or weeks later you get the phone call yanking you back like a yo-yo. Sponsor Message
"'Oh, no,'" Van Alst says the dealer tells you. "'You're going to have to accept an 8% higher interest rate.'" And at that point, he says, "It's a whole lot more difficult for the consumer to walk away. The dealer might have already sold their trade-in."
That's called "unhorsing" the car buyer. "They are then sort of at the mercy of the car dealer," he says.
As it drafts a new set of proposed rules for car dealers, the FTC has requested public comment. And the agency is asking directly — should something more be done to specifically address the problem of yo-yo car sales?
Eighteen state attorneys general say yes. "The FTC can and should go farther to prevent this unfair and deceptive practice," the attorneys general wrote together in a letter to the agency. They urge the FTC to consider "an outright ban on the practice of allowing consumers to leave the dealership with a vehicle before the transaction's financing is finalized." Laws can make a difference
NPR has found that tougher rules for car dealers can make a difference.
In 2015, a new state law in Maryland went into effect. It says dealers have just four days to cancel a sale or it becomes final. And dealers are banned from selling trade-in vehicles until the sale is final. So if need be, the car buyer can get their trade-in back.
NPR obtained and analyzed data made up of complaints to the Maryland attorney general's office. In the three years prior to the new law, there were 122 complaints related to yo-yo car sales, or "spot-delivery" sales as the industry calls them. But now, in the three years ending in 2022, complaints have fallen by more than half.
"Absolutely the law has made a difference," says Karen Straughn, an assistant attorney general with the Maryland attorney general's Consumer Protection Division. She says it took a few years for some car dealers to change their practices. But now, she says, most have. Sponsor Message
She says yo-yo sale cases are also more easily resolved now. She says some dealers used to argue that they didn't do anything wrong. Now the rules are clear.
"We advise the consumer and the dealership of exactly what the law requires," Straughn says. "We find that most times dealerships and consumers are able to work together and resolve it amicably."
But Paul Metrey with the National Automobile Dealers Association says the FTC doesn't need to change the rules at the federal level. He says the vast majority of car sales go through with no incident. "You have tens of millions of transactions where this happens all the time," Metrey says, even when the sales contract gives the dealer the right to cancel it later.
So he says there's nothing wrong with contracts that give dealers the right to cancel after the fact. He says he doesn't have data on problems with yo-yo sales but that it seems to him that it's rare that the original terms don't work and a car buyer needs to be called back.
"That's a situation that you want to avoid," he says, because if the buyer walks away, the dealer gets stuck with a car with more mileage on it making it worth less. It's a headache for everybody involved.
"Perhaps most significantly, you have an unhappy customer," Metrey says. "The reputation of the dealership is key."
The dealer association says car buyers like the current system and changing the rules would create unnecessary delays. Dealers call these contracts spot deliveries because they allow buyers to take the keys and drive off right away, on the spot, even if the dealer hasn't finalized the financing.
Metrey says there are always going to be bad actors at some dealerships, but "to the extent there is an issue, it's something that can be addressed under current federal and state law." Sponsor Message "Nobody should have to go through something like that"
Still, the FTC says in its rulemaking that current laws in general don't appear to be working well enough to protect car buyers. And with yo-yo sales there definitely can be bad outcomes.
NPR spoke to two different car buyers where the dealer reported the car stolen after the buyer resisted agreeing to different terms or returning the car.
Kaitlyn Arland is an Army service member stationed at Fort Riley in Kansas. When she bought a car two years ago, she says the salesman didn't say anything about the sale not being final as she drove away. But then she received a call from the dealership. Arin Yoon for NPR
Kaitlyn Arland is an Army service member stationed at Fort Riley in Kansas. The summer before last she was 19 years old and bought a new Kia sedan with a $325 monthly payment.
"I was so excited," says Arland. "I remember asking the gentleman, like, 'I'm good to go?' And he was, like, 'you're good to go.'"
She says the salesman didn't say anything about the sale not being final as she drove away. But then, eight days later, came the yo-yo phone call. She says the dealer told her the financing didn't work out, she had to come back, sign a different contract, and make a $2,000 down payment.
"I straight up told him, 'I'm sorry. I don't have $2,000,'" Arland says. "He proceeded to ask me if I had a credit card that I could pay it on. And I said ... financially I can't do it, I'm sorry."
Left: Kaitlyn Arland's car keys hang next to her dog tags at her home in Junction City, Kansas. Right: When Arland pushed back on the dealer's new terms and a higher down payment, the finance manager told her they would report the car as stolen. Arin Yoon for NPR
Arland had never bought a car before. But this didn't seem fair. She had a good credit score.
But when she pushed back on the car dealer, she says the finance manager told her if she didn't bring the car back immediately they were going to report it stolen. And apparently they did.
"So the brigade commander reached out to my commander and said that the dealership said that I had stolen this car and I wouldn't return it," Arland says. "I was already new to the unit, and I just found out I was pregnant, so I was already super worried about what everyone was thinking about me." Sponsor Message
Arland was worried this was going to wreck her young career in the military. "I was bawling my eyes out in front of my entire unit."
And after all that, the dealership took the car back.
For Andre Flynt, a car buyer in Cleveland, things ended badly too.
"One night I'm just driving and next thing you know, I get pulled over by the police," Flynt says. "I got my girlfriend in the car, my little brother."
This was about a year ago. Flynt had bought a used Chevrolet Camaro from an AutoNation dealership outside Cleveland. But then he says he got tangled up in a yo-yo sale situation. The dealer was trying to get him to bring the car back. Flynt said he would, but then he didn't. And the dealer reported the car stolen. Flynt says when he got pulled over he showed the police the paperwork indicating he had bought the car legally.
"They got me at the back of the car, one officer was talking about why was he pulling me over when all the paperwork and everything is in my name," Flynt says. "I'm like, there's so many cop cars behind me, it looked like I robbed a bank."
Flynt says it was scary.
"I'm black, too, so it's like any slight movement, anything man, it could have been just all downhill," Flynt says. "It was terrifying. It shook my girl up, 'cause we didn't know what was gonna happen."
The officers arrested him and he spent two nights in jail before he managed to get released.
"Nobody should have to go through something like that when you actually didn't do anything," says Flynt.
The police returned the car to the dealership. AutoNation said in a statement to NPR that the sale had a "stipulation" that Flynt would provide a copy of his Social Security card the next day and that he did not. Flynt and his attorney both say that's not true, that there was no stipulation about a Social Security card and that it's not mentioned in the sales contract Flynt signed.
Flynt says it wasn't until several days later that the dealership contacted him saying it needed more documentation for the loan financing, which he had trouble providing. Emails show that an AutoNation manager repeatedly, over several weeks, told Flynt that if he didn't return the car he would report it stolen.
Consumer attorneys say these are the sorts of messy situations that result when dealers sell someone a car, hand them the keys, shake their hand, and then later try to yo-yo them back.
And there are plenty of successful car dealerships that say they don't engage in the practice of canceling a sale and renegotiating after the customer has already driven off the lot.
"Once the customer signs the paperwork and we sign the paperwork, that's a contract ... it's done," says Scott Addison, the head of sales at Fitzgerald Auto Mall, which operates 23 dealership locations in Maryland, Pennsylvania and Florida.
"We sell 27,000 cars a year," Addison says. "At no point are we going to bring somebody back in and renegotiate."
He says they run into an issue with the financing with maybe 15 or 20 of those sales every year. But the dealership just absorbs any cost related to that and it's rare.
Addison says with technology today it doesn't take very long for his dealership to get a customer's financing approved. "We usually have an approval within seconds of submitting the deal."
For their part, Courtney and Darren Johnson in Florida managed to find a lawyer who took their case, which ended up in arbitration as is required in many sales contracts. But it turns out suing a car dealership can be perilous.
"These are risky cases to bring," says their attorney, David Abrams. "The dealership counterclaimed against them," he says. "They actually went after Darren and Courtney and sued them."
Greenway Hyundai sought to recover its attorney fees and even "storage fees" for the trade-in car that it never returned to the Johnsons. So Abrams says if they lost the case the couple would likely have owed tens of thousands of dollars in legal bills. "They would have had to have declared bankruptcy." Sponsor Message
Abrams says most state laws around deceptive practices don't spell out where the line is that car dealers can't cross. "It's very vague," he says.
That's a big reason he'd like to see the FTC craft a rule that directly addresses spot-delivery and yo-yo sales. "Having some bright line rules," he says, would make the buying process more transparent for buyers and "would make the law much easier to understand and interpret and enforce."
The facts in the Johnsons' case were striking enough, though, that the arbitrator ruled emphatically in their favor, saying the dealership's actions bordered on "criminal conduct" and were "precisely the type of wanton and willful disregard for the rights of others that evinces gross negligence and warrants punitive damages."
Last month, the couple was awarded more than $225,000 in damages.
"I was excited," says Courtney Johnson.
"I'm glad the dealership got punished," says Darren.
The couple says they're thinking they might use the money to start their own fire sprinkler installation business.

Hello I have been researching a first used car for my twins to share on autonation. I had originally wanted a 4Runner but they are very high. So I’ve been looking between a Chevy Equinox and Hyundai Santa Fe. This mom would appreciate and feedback, recommendations and tips.
Thank you

Hello I have been researching a first used car for my twins to share on autonation. I had originally wanted a 4Runner but they are very high. So I’ve been looking between a Chevy equinox and Hyundai Santa Fe. This mom would appreciate and feedback, recommendations and tips.
Thank you

I just picked my car up from the local Autonation Hyundai after them having it from 10/20/22. I have called several times and they did not get back to me until 12/1/22 with an estimate for my car. When I picked up my car today, there was a quarter of tank of gas missing, scratches and scuffs on both sides of my car and on the rims, cat footprints all across the dash, inside covered in dirt, and spiderwebs. My dash board already had a single crack in it but now it looks completely smashed (this wasn't anywhere near what needed to be repaired). I don't have any evidence of what my car looked like before dropping it off and the dealership is saying that I am lying. What can I do?

Aika usein kun lukee keskustelpalstoja niin tulee vastaan että Q-kirjain on korvattu G-kirjaimella. Mistä tämä johtuu? Jotenkin niin vaikea sisäistää tyyli, kun se esiintyy kirjoitetussa tekstissä. Olet esimerkiksi ostanut Hyundai Ioniq auton. Sitten palstoilla kirjoitat siitä Ionig nimellä. Sama asia toistuu usein puhekielessä. Q (kuu)-kirjain myös äännetään Guu vaikka kuvittelisi Kuun taittuvan paremmin Suomalaisen suuhun.
What is this sorcery?

I have two options to purchase a car, a 2015 Hyundai Santa Fe sport at $18k with 51k miles (FWD), and a 2015 Honda CR-V EX-L Sport utility with 100k miles at $17k (AWD). Both are in great condition with no significant issues. The Santa Fe gets 20 city/27 HWY MPG and the CR-V gets closer to 26/33 MPG.
The CR-V has recently had: tires rotated, oil changed, air filters changed, transmission and rear diff fluid changed, and all transmission, engine, and mechanical systems were checked off as running well by a local mechanic. Image is of the CRV. The Santa Fe is through Autonation and appears to have had a full inspection with no red flags.
Is there a clear better option? Am I being dumb and both are terrible choices?
CR-V

Here are all of the new US CCS (Level 3 fast-charging) stations that rolled out in September 2022, according to the Department of Energy. These chargers are suitable for most new EVs on the market, except for:

1. Tesla drivers who haven't bought the newly released official CCS adapter yet.
2. Leaf owners like me, and some owners of older cars that also use CHADeMO. If you drive a Leaf, or an older CHADeMO car, see my September post in the Leaf subreddit.

There was an issue with the data this month, so the count could be a little low. The DoE listed about 800 chargers as having opened on September 21st, 2022. I was suspicious, so I spot-checked and found evidence these chargers were previously open. I'm not sure what happened on their end, but I decided to ignore all chargers that were "newly opened" on September 21st, 2022. That takes us from a very unlikely number to a healthy but normal month.
So... ignoring the bad data, there were 182 new CHADeMOs added in September.
If you'd like to know about new chargers along your routes right away, I've set up a free service that provides email notifications as soon as they open. You can sign up at evpov.com. Or not! I don't really have a business plan here, I built it to help EV owners like myself.
I also have some nice EVPOV bumper stickers. If you'd like to spread the love drop me a line.

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I booked this two months and finally drove the car off the lot yesterday. No mark up and the salesperson was very friendly. Kudos to Autonation Hyundai Tempe, AZ. I’m absolutely in love with this car and enjoying it very much. I owned a 2022 Elantra SEL + Premium Package before this and I’m going to draw some comparison in few points (I know it’s not a fair one, I’m just considering for the difference in experience).
Mileage:
By the time I’m writing this, I’ve driven (casual and not harsh on the gas pedal) 50 miles with a mix of city and highways. I’m seeing an average mileage of 30MPG on the cluster which to be honest is not bad. I was expecting way less after reading some numbers here and in the forum. This number is very similar what I used to get in my Elantra, so I’m kinda impressed seeing a SUV pull it off and excited that the number will increase after the break in period.
Exterior:
The car looks absolutely stunning that too during night with those LEDs, it’s just sexy! I liked the front of the Elantra as well but I felt that DRL was just lazy. But I prefer the tail light of the Elantra over Tucson, it was sleek and looked nice. Tucson is a bit aggressive and a little too much with the fang like tail light. I really wanted red color but it’s a bummer that US doesn’t get the Red for the hybrid model. Only Canada gets to have the fun :/
Driving experience: It’s way quieter and feels buttery smooth compared to the Elantra. Even though the button gear system has a perk of automatically switching to park when you turn off the vehicle, I kinda miss the gear shifter. The acceleration is great in smart mode and sports mode gives that little push when needed. I haven’t tried the snow mode but I’ll definitely give it a shot this winter.
The bells and whistles:
Ventilated and leather seats are a game changer for me with the heat in Arizona. I’m excited to do camping and stargazing from that beautiful panaromic roof. The infotainment UI is fluid and a huge upgrade compared to the laggy one I used in Elantra. I had frustrations with CarPlay in the old car due to the wireless connection. So I prefer and like the wired one but I see that the majority. The infotainment screen has a different reach, like the screen is placed lower compared to Elantra and it’s gonna take me some time to get adjusted to it. I already hate the capacitive buttons, it’s very hard and distracting to use while driving. Blind spot monitoring on the dash is amazing and it’s gonna make me lazy for sure. I can see a noticeable difference in the audio quality even though they have the same Bose Premium audio system. I liked it better in Elantra, it sounded clear with punchy bass. In this, I played with the EQ but it still sounds a bit off, probably due to the huge cabin. Didn’t get a chance to test the parking with remote and I can already tell that I might use it very rarely.
I’m super excited for all the road trips and adventures that I’m gonna have with the car. I just wanted to share my initial thoughts about the car. If you’re waiting for yours to arrive, hold on a little longer, it’s definitely worth the wait. Thanks for reading, I’m happy to answer any questions you have.